“They’re overbearing, self-righteous, opinionated, insensitive, and harsh. Why or why not? The Reason for God – Chapter Eleven: Religion and The Gospel “Christianity teaches that our main problem is sin, ” according to Keller (p. 180) he continues if this is true than why must one select Christianity and Jesus? 2. How have you seen the lever at work? Second, it gives reasons for Christian faith that are accessible, thoughtful and never overstated. The Reason for God small group Bible study can be used individually, with groups, or by any believer who is engaging with friends who don’t share his or her beliefs. Does this resonate with your sense of your neighbors and co-workers? The Reason for God small group Bible study can be used individually, with groups, or by any believer who is engaging with friends who don't share his or her beliefs. Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors' hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. Define, as objectively and carefully as possible, the three approaches to try to deal with the divisiveness of religion: to outlaw it [p. 5-6], to condemn it [p. 7-13], and to restrict it the private sphere of life [p. 13-18]. When Keller says that complete inclusiveness is an illusion, does that make you uncomfortable? Do you find this argument surprising? REASON FOR GOD. 3. What does it mean for “Heaven to work backwards”? Chapter 1: There Can’t Be Just One True Religion. Give examples of rhetoric from the side of skepticism; from the side of Christian faith; from the side of faiths other than Christianity. Either this is reportage … or else, some unknown [ancient] writer … without known predecessors or successors, suddenly, anticipated the whole technique of modern novelistic, realistic, narrative” [p. 106]. 9. “I must conclude that the source of the idea,” he says, “is the Bible itself.” How is this significant? His book, The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism, is must-reading, whether you are a Christian or a non-Christian. Aug 6, 2017 - "The Reason For God" Discussion Questions Index | Church of the Servant It contains an opening thought and summary of the objection, scripture references, and extensive discussion questions. 40. Noting his credentials as a literary scholar, Keller quotes C. S. Lewis, “I have been reading poems, romances, vision literature, legends, and myths all my life. 13. If you haven’t heard this before, what does this suggest about the church’s ability to speak biblical truth into our post-Christian world? There is no reason for the author to include such names unless the readers know or could have access to them. Speaking to believers, Keller argues, “Only if you struggle long and hard with objections to your faith will you be able to provide grounds for your beliefs to skeptics, including yourself, that are plausible rather than ridiculous or offensive” [p. xvii]. I know none of them are like this. If you are a Christian, is this how you have understood the biblical concept of hell? 8. Is this argument compelling? Knowing God Personally 2. Instead they were oral histories taken down from the mouths of living eyewitnesses who preserved the words and deeds of Jesus in great detail” [p. 102]. With whom does God speak, questioning him as to where he has been? Therefore, all should examine their doubts regarding Christianity. 10. Which restrictions have you found dehumanizing and unhelpful? “Think of people you consider fanatical,” Keller says. “You never see him [Jesus] say something like: ‘See that tree over there? Which community’s beliefs lead it to demonize and attack those who violate their boundaries rather than treating them with kindness, humility, and winsomeness?” [p. 40]. A modern alternative to SparkNotes and CliffsNotes, SuperSummary offers high-quality study guides that feature detailed chapter summaries and analysis of major themes, characters, quotes, and essay topics. Do you find these ideas coming up often enough that some further reading on your part might prove helpful? Have you heard Christians raise this issue as a problem in their faith? objections and questions about God. “To stay away from Christianity,” Keller says, “because part of the Bible’s teaching is offensive to you assumes that if there is a God he wouldn’t have any views that upset you.

1. Do you find the doctrine of divine judgment or God’s “wrath” offensive or troubling? This six-session small group Bible study (DVD/digital video sold separately) captures live and unscripted conversations between Tim Keller and a group of people to address their doubts and objections to Christianity. What’s the solution? Have you heard this objection to faith? How was it expressed? 4. In some sections of the church, however, the opposite conclusion would be drawn. Why or why not? How often do Christians seek the very best arguments of their opponents? David Richter, associate pastor of Trinity Presbyterian Church, and Dr. David Van Norstrand, medical student in the Mayo School of Medicine.). “Czeslaw Milosz, the Nobel Prize-winning Polish poet, wrote the remarkable essay ‘The Discreet Charms of Nihilism.’ In it he remembers how Marx had called religion ‘the opiate of the people’ because the promise of an afterlife (Marx said) led the poor and the working class to put up with unjust social conditions. 6. There can't be just one true religion; 2. If not, why? If you have any questions about the study, or about God in general, feel free to email me from the link in the right sidebar. Can you see why Christianity could appear to be a straitjacket or power play to some people? 8. 14. Does Keller’s response surprise you? How often have you heard it stated as a source of doubt by Christians? How can we love one another while holding differing positions on this issue? Dawkins points to a survey that shows only 7% of scientists believe in God. Since Keller “was always looking for that third camp,” he says he “became interested in shaping and initiating new Christian communities” [p. xiii]. The Reason for God Summary. 7. How can Christians talk about this with non-Christians without sounding self-righteous? 3. These are just a few of the questions and doubts even ardent believers wrestle with today. We must not make settled, final decisions about anyone’s spiritual state or fate” [p. 80]. Now you will suffer!’ This caricature misunderstands the very nature of evil. Are you convinced this is true? Together, they have created a ministry that includes lecturing, writing, teaching, feeding, and encouraging those who want to know more about what it means to be a Christian in the everyday life of the 21st century. How would you present each flaw to a skeptic who is making the argument? 19. Keller quotes Bonhoeffer: “It is not a religious act that makes the Christian, but participation in the sufferings of God in the secular life. In a sun-scorched land, soaked in the blood of the innocent, it will invariably die… [with] other pleasant captivities of the liberal mind” [p. 74]. The DVD features a culturally diverse group of people meeting to discuss the most common objections to Christianity. 5. Keller recommends that both skeptics and believers “look at doubt in a radically new way” [p. xvi]. How does secularism deal with suffering and evil? What difference does it make? Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors’ hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. Keller writes in a smooth, conversational tone. How does this correspond to the claims of miracles we sometimes hear about today? Do you share it? How have you challenged those ideas? The gospel is neither religion nor irreligion, but something else entirely. What changes must our church make to be a safe place? The Reason for God curriculum can be used individually, in groups, or by any believer who is engaging with friends who don't share his or her beliefs. The Reason for God: Conversations on Faith and Life is a DVD for small groups hosted by Tim Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in Manhattan. “The death of Jesus,” Keller argues, “was qualitatively different from any other death” [p. 30]. Product details. Is this a political idea Christians can endorse? 1. “This means,” Keller says, “every human culture has (from God) distinct goods and strengths for the enrichment of the human race… while every culture has distortions and elements that will be critiqued and revised by the Christian message, each culture will also have good and unique elements to which Christianity connects and adapts” [p. 45]. Chapter 6. “If you have a God great and transcendent enough to be mad at because he hasn’t stopped evil and suffering in the world, then you have (at the same moment) a God great and transcendent enough to have good reasons for allowing it to continue that you can’t know. If it is true, why don’t we hear hell explained this way? 5. “Human beings are most free and alive in relationships of love. Why? Is this common knowledge among Christians? “Good character,” Keller says, “is largely attributable to a loving, safe, and stable family and social environment—conditions for which we were not responsible.” Because people with greater needs are often the ones attracted to Christianity, Keller concludes, “we should expect that many Christians’ lives would not compare well to those of the nonreligious” [p. 54]. God’s command to sacrifice Isaac was to provide an example of absolute obedience. Is civility in the public square possible if this is correct? Should they? of God raising someone from the dead… [This] argument… is like the drunk who insisted on looking for his lost car keys only under the streetlight on the grounds that the light was better there. 13. Why? Keller quotes New Atheist Christopher Hitchens’ accusation that religion “has been an enormous multiplier of tribal suspicion and hatred,” and concludes, “Hitchens’s point is fair” [p. 54-55]. 5. “The Biblical view of things is resurrection,” Keller writes, “not a future that is just a consolation for the life we never had but a restoration of the life you always wanted. We cannot consider a group exclusive simply because it has standards for its members. Mark is saying, ‘Alexander and Rufus vouch for the truth of what I am telling, if you want to ask them’” [p. 101]. “Perhaps the biggest deterrent to Christianity for the average person today is not so much violence and warfare but the shadow of fanaticism. The objection this chapter addresses, Keller shows, is linked to the unspoken assumptions of Western culture [p. 72]. Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors’ hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. We're sure that reading will lead you to join in better concept of life. The main characters of this christian, religion story are , . 7. His book, The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism, is must-reading, whether you are a Christian or a non-Christian. Does that belief make sense?” [p. 112] Christians often say such things when non-Christians have objections to things like the Trinity or the necessity of Christ’s death for forgiveness. What view is more commonly held, and what difference does it make? Questions for Discussion and Reflection: 1. Keller quotes C. S. Lewis: “They say of some temporal suffering, ‘No future bliss can make up for it,’ not knowing that Heaven, once attained, will work backwards and turn even that agony into a glory” [p. 34]. by Denis Haack. [p. 70]. When is confrontation appropriate? This means that every horrible thing that ever happened will not only be undone and repaired but will in some way make the eventual glory and joy even greater” [p. 32]. One such gifted leader for today is Timothy Keller, pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian in New York City. While reflecting on how Redeemer Presbyterian engages the culture of New York City, what are two ways in which your church does a good job of engaging the culture of your city? Do you think any of the stories could be expanded into a full-length book? 'Lord of the Flies' Questions for Study and Discussion How to Understand William Golding's Famous Novel. We only become ourselves in love, yet healthy love relationships involve mutual, unselfish service, a mutual loss of independence” [p. 48]. “Alister McGrath points out that when the idea of God is gone, a society will ‘transcendentalize’ something else, some other concept, in order to appear morally and spiritually superior” [p. 55]. “We should not be surprised to discover it was the Bible-believing religious establishment who put Jesus to death” [p. 59]. How is this significant for making the case that the gospel narratives are not merely legend—what is Lewis referring to? Do you believe many Christians share this conviction? He then goes on to give two illustrations. But we should not criticize churches when they maintain standards for membership in accord with their beliefs. Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors’ hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. Why not? Does this surprise you? How does Keller’s discussion of Sommerville’s example of the mugging highlight what our motivation for helping people should be? Review the illustrations. 2. Define freedom (saying “being in Christ” is not allowed—though true, in this setting it is a platitude). Every community must do the same” [p. 40]. What unholy alliances between Christian faith and cultural values or political ideologies are present in our own society? Do you agree it is a decisive refutation? Do you agree? 7. Exodus 34:23-24 – God would protect their land while traveling to the tabernacle/temple. What are the implications for your skepticism/faith? 1. Questions for the first half of the book are posted on our website under The Reason for God: Questions for Discussion (I). Some leaders in Keller’s denomination would perhaps believe that Keller should not be ordained as a minister because of holding this view. 2. To what extent have you read about the opposing views of the historicity of the biblical documents? Do you find the doctor’s thoughts and actions frustrating? How do you resolve your difficulty? Does this resonate with your sense of your fellow Christians? [p. 77-78]. What plans should you make? Have you ever heard the charge that believing in hell makes you “narrow” [p. 80-81]? 6. Is this how you define hell to your non-Christian friends? 11. We will continue to meet, covering one chapter per week, through to the end of December (for the first half of the book). 5. 14. Why or why not? In response to the objection that a God of love cannot be a God of anger, Keller says “all loving persons are sometimes filled with wrath, not just despite of but because of their love.” “Anger isn’t the opposite of love,” Keller quotes Becky Pippert saying, “Hate is, and the final form of hate is indifference” [p. 73]. You had your chance! 16. When they are missing, what difference does it make? The book was published in multiple languages including English, consists of 293 pages and is available in Hardcover format. What reasons did they give? Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors’ hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. But at the same time, robust, orthodox belief in the traditional faiths is growing as well” [p. ix]. Where do you fit? How might Christians take this argument to an incorrect conclusion? The book was published in multiple languages including English, consists of 293 pages and is available in Hardcover format. How do this provide a better answer than every other worldview? Is this the view of the future that Christians tend to believe in and hear about in church? 12. Do you find it a good response to the objection we are considering? Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors’ hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. When Christianity arrived via missionaries, it did not destroy the traditional African worldview but rather revealed how it was fulfilled in Christ. How is this significant for the reliability of the biblical texts? What does Keller identify as the flaw in each approach? How can God send good people to hell? But it needs to be overcome every time, and thus there is an even holier angel than the one of pain, that is the one of joy in God” [p. 66-67]. How do we know which of the two we are actually trusting? Why or why not? Why do you think you respond the way you do? The Reason for God Discussion Guide is designed to be used with the DVD sessions. Why or why not? Grand Rapids, MI 49546 In an effort to further that, Ransom Fellowship has prepared detailed reflection and discussion questions for each section and chapter of the book. What are the usual views of doubt? To what extent is your church characterized by these three qualities? How did you respond? Most of these are non-specific, designed to work for any book, (although, of course, some will work better than others for particular books). "The Reason for God, Belief in an Age of Skepticism," by Timothy Keller, is a pro-Christian work which lays out the major criticisms that modern skeptics have about faith and in particular Christianity. Why is that? If you are a Christian, is this how you view your own faith? Why or why not? Keller identifies three “barriers” to faith: intellectual, personal, and social [p. xii-xiii]. How does the creature persuade the doctor to create a companion? 14. Does it make you uncomfortable about being a theist? Since so many highly knowledgeable scholars are convinced this is the only possible conclusion, given the historical evidence, does this make you nervous? There is no excusing it” [p. 56]. “The existence of God can be neither demonstrably proven or disproven” [p. 86]. Why? Esther Lombardi. August 20, 2015 August 20, 2015 ljcrum. Since there are so many other issues raised concerning the historicity and trustworthiness of the Bible, what plans should you make? 92 pages, softcover.First Lesson Free! If we were to lose his presence totally, that would be hell—the loss of our capability for giving or receiving love or joy. “Many people who take an intellectual stand against Christianity,” Keller says, “ do so against a background of personal disappointment with Christians and churches. What is your response? 6. Some might argue that the alternatives Keller presents are too extreme—plausible v. ridiculous and offensive. More specifically, Keller sees Genesis 1 & 2 as similar to Judges 4 &5 and Exodus 14 &15. Do you agree? Do you agree? [p. 103]. Free download or read online The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism pdf (ePUB) book. 6. Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors’ hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. Ransom Fellowship was founded by Denis and Margie Haack in 1981. Take the time to read (at least sections of) Beowulf or The Iliad and compare them to sections of Mark’s gospel. 7. I will change for you. We modern people think of miracles as the suspension of the natural order, but Jesus meant them to be the restoration of the natural order. Chapter 2: How Could a Good God Allow Suffering? How often have you heard this objection? The questions were formulated in weekly conversations I had on Keller’s book with two young friends: the Rev. It is good for three reasons. 25.] It would mean that no one could really know what Jesus said and did, and that the Bible could not be the authoritative norm over our life and beliefs. How does this make you feel as a Christian? First, it identifies and answers the questions being raised today. 10. Review the title of this chapter—does Keller fully answer this question, or does he primarily level the playing field for conversations with skeptics? Keller lists three reasons why the four gospel records of Jesus life, death, and resurrection should be taken as historically reliable [p. 100-109]. “All this decisively refutes the idea that the gospels were anonymous, collective, evolving oral traditions. On October 1 a class began to review Tim Keller’s thought-provoking book, “The Reason for God”. The Reason for God small group Bible study can be used individually, with groups, or by any believer who is engaging with friends who don’t share his or her beliefs. What plans should you make? 13. reviewed by Lita Cosner. The Reason for God small group Bible study can be used individually, with groups, or by any believer who is engaging with friends who don’t share his or her beliefs. Foucault was pressing the truth of his analysis on others even as he denied the very category of truth. February 9, 2009 On pages 44-45, Keller argues that there is “no Christian culture,” but rather that Christianity maintains core orthodoxy while adapting to the culture of its followers. Frankenstein Discussion Questions: Set 4 (end) Chapters 20-24. visit the House Church Resources page for more info. Should Christians take the lead in demonstrating civility in the public square? “Liberal democracy is based on an extensive list of assumptions—a preference of individual to community rights, a division between private and public morality, and the sanctity of personal choice. Keller quotes Macquarrie who argues that since science is based on the idea that all natural events are caused by other natural events, any sort of miracle “is irreconcilable with our modern understanding of both science and history.” Alvin Plantinga says, “Macquarrie perhaps means to suggest that the very practice of science requires that one reject the idea (e.g.) List the specific “counterproductive content” Keller mentions to counter the argument that the early church fabricated the gospel accounts to make Jesus fit their agenda [p. 104-105]. By the way, in case you are wondering about the set of questions—seven in all—that Keller correctly identifies as being important today, they include: There can’t be just one true religion. If yes, what questions do you ask? How would you respond to Christians who disagree with his interpretation? Fire disintegrates. What reason does the monster give for “punishing” Justine? How do evangelicals fare today by this standard? Do you believe that right doctrine and proper moral behavior will assure your relationship with God? Which short story/essay did you like least? Given the refutation of the “story of the blind men and the elephant” [p. 8-9], how do we make this argument while maintaining the humility appropriate to knowing we see only in part, through a glass darkly (see 1 Corinthians 13)? Why might this be? Have you ever heard this understanding of the miraculous before? Why or why not? Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors’ hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. It would mean that most of the classic Christian teachings—Jesus’ deity, atonement, and resurrection—are mistaken and based on legends” [p. 98]. Do you find this true in your personal experience? Keller proposes, “All doubts, however skeptical and cynical they may seem, are really a set of alternate beliefs.” To doubt one idea is to have faith in another. Keller says that the Gnostic gospels, not the canonical gospels, “‘suck up’ to the ‘powers that be’” [p. 105]. Why do you think that is? 10. [p. 97-98]. Why? "The Reason For God" Discussion Questions Index Posted January 2, 2009 by Church of the Servant. Here is a far better set of tests: Which community has beliefs that lead its members to treat persons in other communities with love and respect—to serve them and meet their needs? The first edition of the novel was published in 2007, and was written by Timothy J. Keller. 14. Can you think of a time when you used this argument inappropriately and hurt or angered someone? I used this Discussion Guide along with the DVD 'The Reason for God-Conversations on Faith and Life' and the book 'The Reason for God-Belief in an Age of Skepticism' as part of a course in Christian Apologetics in our homeschool.

Give examples of Christians denouncing something, rather than engaging in careful reasoning. This touches on one of the reasons many of the postmodern generation find biblically orthodox Christianity to be irrelevant. Where have you noticed or encountered such approaches? Summarize each objectively and clearly in language that would be readily understood and appreciated by a non-Christian who does not have a churched background. Do you see yourself more as a patient in a hospital than a saint in a museum? Why do so many Christians tend to act as if such fundamentals do not apply to them, since they are neither loving nor receptive? Christians will be challenged to wrestle with their friends and neighbors' hardest questions, and to engage those questions in ways that will spark an honest, enriching, and humbling dialogue. What about suffering? 17. What troubles you most about its beliefs or how it is practiced?” [p. 3] Do you make a habit of asking non-Christians questions similar to that? In the last few years, there have been several apologetics books by Christians, each of whom has put his own ‘spin’ on the Christian message. What has been your personal experience with Christians and churches—have you been disappointed or wounded? Keller distinguishes between evolution as the idea that “complex life-forms evolved from less complex forms through a process of natural selection,” and “Evolution as an All-encompassing Theory,” which he argues is not science but philosophy [p. 87]. 2. What would such a safe place look like? How would you respond to this assertion? Robert Bellah “concludes that the most fundamental belief in American culture is that moral truth is relative to individual consciousness” [p. 70]. To what extent do you agree with him? Specifically it will help you think about six common objections to Christianity. Questions for the first half of the book are posted on our website under The Reason for God: Questions for Discussion (I). Keller claims, “Christianity has been more adaptive (and maybe less destructive) of diverse cultures than secularism and many other worldviews” [p. 40]. In response to the objection that a good God could not possibly allow hell, Keller responds: “Modern people inevitably think that hell works like this: God gives us time, but if we haven’t made the right choices by the end of our lives, he casts our souls into hell for all eternity. Lobdell (2nd floor, Student center) Free dinner provided How does this change the meaning of the opening chapters of the creation account? Where did they learn this? How would you help such fanatics see they “are not Christian enough”? Might this list surprise some evangelical Christians? After that dance the stars weren’t little anymore. Bible Study Guides 8. This turns on its head what is often the common reaction to The Da Vinci Code, and to the recent media coverage of The Gospel of Judas. In fact, it would go the drunk one better: it would insist that because the keys would be hard to find in the dark, they must be under the light” [p. 85-86]. 25-26). Does this surprise you? 19. Why or why not? If you are a non-Christian, how would you respond to this definition of hell? Can you understand why exclusivity can be a concern of many in our culture? Keller says, “The reality is that we all make truth-claims of some sort and it is very hard to weigh them responsibly, but we have no alternative but to try to do so” [p. 11]; “We are all exclusive in our beliefs about religion, but in different ways” [p. 13]. Is there then no way to judge whether a community is open and caring rather than narrow and oppressive? 8. Is this normally how Christians answer this objection to the faith? In the past, when you read such details in the gospel records did you see that the author meant this? 11. If you argue that Christians don’t look down on non-Christians, why then do Christian parents believe non-Christians are not good enough to marry their children? Christianity is a straitjacket. Which do you have the most trouble accepting? Specifically it will help you think about six common objections to Christianity. Explain. If that is true, should churches reward children for good attendance in Sunday school? “Skepticism, fear, and anger toward traditional religion are growing in power and influence. What is your response? Could this explain why so many younger Christians feel alienated from disillusioned about a church seeking to conserve itself? What religious stance or ethical criteria have you found your unbelieving friends using to evaluate Christian faith? 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