Wheelies on demand. I'll be honest with you, I doubt it will stay there for long but at least it looks cool. Approx. It originally came out (as the Subaru Brat) as a replacement chassis for the SRB (special racing buggy) which was Tamiya's first buggy chassis (1979). So i thought i would do the same on a BF i recently purchased, the problem i am having though is that it seems the drives are at too steep an angle when at rest compared to the MB. I don't need to tell ya'll what's before and what's after... And just for fun I placed the wheels next to my beloved Savage X. Make Offer - Tamiya Monster Beetle 2015 Blackfoot 2016 Mud Blaster Front End Suspension NEW ! If anyone has parts for a Tamiya Blackfoot 1986 please let me know and also were the best place is to get parts other than ebay. 00. I love the design evolution of any chassis. I got it as a birthday present when I was 14. Vintage 1986 Tamiya Monster Beetle Part Motor Speed Control Pinion gear Resister. If you can't find the part you're looking for, send us an email or give our sales team a call on 01943 466535 with the part number of the item you require and we will do our best to help you. Looks like this truck means business. The gearbox comes pre-assembled from the […] I'll explain why later on. The MB yellow shocks are at full extension and actually stop the swinging arm from hitting the red stopper on the underside of the chassis by about 5 mm. It's easy! It'll be this one, although in a different color. First I've fitted Savage X big bore dampers onto it. In fact, they'd be worth double the price! Tamiya made 2 different types of lower eye and one is longer than the other

. Tamiya Blackfoot 12Tx2 LRP Motor and Sniper RV-12 ESC I decided to once again upgrade my motor on my electronic monster truck. I replaced the ones on my Bush Devil with those from a standard BF. hang on just found these there must be one in here to fit, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180pc-Small-Mini-Rubber-Washer-O-Ring-Seal-Set-/271162029641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f22843649. Ok so the truck is asking for a new one and I will deliver. I mean I did toss it aside at some point but before that and every now and then, it had to endure a good amount of bashing. To give you an idea of what I'll be talking about, here's the broken part. The tabs on the other end act like a new pin. Moving your Steering Mod to the top of the chassis eliminates issues with any of you steering rig being stuck by debris, etc. A brief run down of its history: The KBF is the last in a very long line of vehicles to use the ORV (off road vehicle) platform. exactly the same chassis but the MB drives sit almost straight when at rest but the BF are at 45 degrees and i assume the reason why the right rear pops out every now and again. The one problem was the driveshafts which wore out quickly, and these have been fixed by Tamiya. That way front and rear towers are connected and provide each other stability (at least that's what I hope). Tamiya Plasma Edge 2 - upgrades - Duration: 4:02. TAMIYA America, Inc 1/14 Monster Beetle Trail GF-01TR 4WD Chassis Kit, TAM58672 I'm actually pretty happy with how it turned out because there's virtually zero free play left in it! Pop rivets seemed a cheap and good solution. One too many beers??? I have also looked at other threads that suggest the frog requires 5 rubber grommets in the cups of the drive shafts, 3 on one side and 2 on the other, but it looks to me like this would only push the do bone further out of its cup and make it more prone to popping out. (Can anyone else confirm this?). i will try the washer at each end as suggested in some forums. I'm hoping that I can carry over some stuff from the original body like, say, the bumpers, and that way merge the present with the past. That said, I wasn't satisfied with the performance of the front suspension anyways. I'm off to the drawing board... after careful consideration and calculation of value for time and money, I decided to ditch the idea of making my own suspension components in favour of buying CNC machined parts from a HSP 1/10 monster truck. rcMart hobby shop carries Tamiya RC Spare parts for different series. The King Blackfoot finished the transformation by revising the front suspension totally to a more up-to-date standardized design. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111000655297?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649. 4.7 out of 5 stars 11. As promised, here's a quick comparison of stock shimmed vs modified turnbuckle. The reinforced polycarbonate monocoque frame chassis allows easy access to the main components and make maintenance of gearbox a breeze. 2. I really need to track down a King Blackfoot for my collection. But from what I've found they are out of business. Check out the wheels here and tell me what you think: http://www.banggood.com/4PCS-Wheel-Rim-Tires-HSP-110-Monster-Truck-RC-Car-12mm-Hub-88005-p-1072827.html?utm_campaign=android-share&utm_source=google-play&utm_medium=organic&android_share=1&_branch_match_id=373961846384457014. Coming up next are broken C-hubs and how to fix them, reduction of suspension free play and robustness improvements, air-lock wheels and maybe more. One had to be modified, as it was lacking a side arm which was necessary for this particular arrangement. Alright folks, I renamed the title because what started as a small side-project to put some spare parts to good use has set me on fire now. Once the proper design architecture was nailed down, alot of vehicles began to look and act the same. In direct sunlight it almost instantly hardened, so that I was able to file it in shape. There's nothing wrong with some glue if you want to combine things that are ought to stay together and never be taken apart. There are certainly different options to do it but I went with a center mount, which, as a plus, provides the truck with a mean look. On my Blackfoot, the shocks are almost exactly 3 inches (76 mm) eye-center to eye-center. Next step - glue it up! Make Offer - Tamiya 58618 Monster Beetle 2015 Spare C-Parts Tree Mud Blaster Blackfoot NEW NR TAMIYA TG10 Stock Single Speed Transmission Parts Rc Glow Remote Car Hpi $25.00 Both cars are at rest with no batteries in them. I also have MB & BF shelfers with the original hex drives & the angle is the same. The pieces you used as front shock mounts are the original ORV battery end caps/ side retainers. It looks to me that the 80mm black shocks on the original BF are pushing the suspension arms too low for the dogbone shafts and the dogbones when being driven keep popping out and twisting the rubber drive shaft boot, sometimes locking one wheel up altogether. I've only mounted the parts loosely on one side of the chassis, which makes for nice comparison shots. Sign up for a new account in our community. The SBF also lost the rear trailing arm suspension and gained a wider version of the original BF's front suspension. By The Super Blackfoot was the first round of revisions which focused on the woefully weak rear gearbox. I made it out of a piece of 1mm carbon, which is stronger than one might expect from such a thin material. MAST will host a much larger "first release," the GALEX DR1, in October, 2004. A quick rundown on this trucks history. The yellow MB shocks measure 70mm centre to centre when on the car and also when off, this is the same for the front shocks and also the back shocks, so i thought hey presto buy a set of MB yellow shocks and problem solved. I always felt like the cover had somewhat of a tractor look to it, which I dislike. As you see I used two spare parts that came with the truck and of which I'm not really sure anymore what their original purpose was... And another one from the back along with the frame that replaced the original servo cover. I went to do the cup mod where you screw the two together and broke my tap bit inside the cup. First off I had to cut 4mm and 8mm off of the front and rear lower control arm mounts respectively. I used the V-shape of the mounting points, which btw never had any real purpose on the KB, as guides and it turned out pretty nice, I think. $64.95. Or are those painted??? The ORV rear suspension arms have down-stops molded into the underside that hit the bottom of the chassis to limit the travel of the arm, and over time, these wear down or wear a little groove in the bottom of the chassis and that lets the arm drop down too much. I was or still am thinking about making my own servo mount but for now find it charming to have the servo installed with the original parts - even though it's sitting there upside down now. To this day, Tamiya still can over-think things (i.e. Still the same, I am now awaiting a shorter set of shocks at 70mm the same as my MB ones as I see this as the only way to resolve it . Think skid plate. It was designed to work with Tamiya’s brand-new universal pin drive axle, giving you the option of installing brushless motors without fear of destroying the stock gear differential or … When you say that there are two different length lower eyes, do you mean that at manufacture by Tamiya there are two different types and that i may have the longer ones on the model i have whilst others may have a shorter set? Gotta rush to work now but will upload pics and videos of the progress later in the day. 114 sold. There are 2 different lower eyes for the yellow CVA's , one is longer than the other (or one is shoter than the other depending on your point of view ).Have you tried inserting a plastic spacer inside the BF dampers to reduce the arm 'drop' at full extension and thus reduce the 'eye to eye' length of the damper in turn stopping the shaft dropping out . You should definitely put some limiters inside the shocks. They're still a bit messy in terms of wiring, but I'll get to that later. Have been trying to find a set that are maybe 42 or at a push 44mm long in total that will fit the frog re re drive cups. I will hunt down the manual for the beetle and blackfoots and have a good bedtime read or a quick glance of the piccies should i say. and not sure why one sits lower, i can only assume it is the 10mm extra length of the shock on the BF and MB ones off the bay. Besides, it's easy to criticise outdated technology in general. I've got so many ideas that I don't even know where to beginn. Hi guys, well I have had another bash at sorting the popping out dog bones. What I admittedly did not consider, or should I say didn't expect, is that I actually broke into the rear gearbox in the process. Is there any upgrades for this problem? Weird... forget about it, I figured it out. I think I can visualise what you are saying Smiffffy. Was: $10.00. $11.00 $ 11. As Gripper said the steep angle of the dogbones looks to be correct. Where did you get blue wheels??? I'll post a quick video showing the difference between before and after. On top of that I also had 4 Savage X shocks left. These products are not only sold in Japan but also exported in vast quantities to the United States, Europe, South East Asia, and to many other parts of the world. The MB with its 70mm yellow shocks seem to be at a more straight / level angle, and by comparison from the rear looks like a low rider. I recently just dug out some of my old R/Cs. (I think you should've got some of these included in the blue transmission bag right?). I run the dogbone set up in my runner MB running a 15t motor & Ive never had one pop out(I do have one grommet in each drive cup)those uni's should work fine too. TAMIYA GEARBOX UPGRADE - Monster Beetle - Frog - Mud Blaster - Blackfoot - ORV - EUR 13,49. Now that I'm all grown up (ha! With their 4mm outer diameter they also have the benefit of better distributing the load introduced into the hub during impacts, hence (hopefully) improving the robustness. So after that I went a step further and also replaced the bulky links which were bothering me because of their clunky-chunky appearance. Later. Still getting the dog bones popping out on one side, I have changed the re re frog double ended dog bones for a set that is fixed at one end in the drive cup via Allen key, but is dog bone at the other end off of e-bay. Looking at the pictures you attached, what I can say is that the near 45 degree angle of the axel is what you should have (on both a Monster beetle using yellow shocks, or a Blackfoot using black shocks, whether they are using the dogbone hop ups, or the original hex type axels). I've got a draft on my mind already and will share it when it's ready. $19.99. Like I say, I have not had trouble with this myself, but I am sure I have read elsewhere some time ago (on the TC forums) of people complaining of losing their dogbones as they have popped out mid run. The maximum upgrade people seem to recommend for a truck of thistype is a 12 turn with x2. It gained, among other things, a new tall front shock tower, bigger steering blocks and uprights and a cover (that you mentioned) to protect the electronics (while covering the exposed chassis under the high-riding Ford F150 body). There's a lot of customizing and shimming and such to be done, I need to come up with a nice rear shock attachment and make a few other adjustments before I'll be able to take this bad boy for a spin. $4.95 shipping. very confused ???? I just figured I'd share this with the world, since I haven't seen any of those mods anywhere else. Better performing, stronger and lower-parts count doesn't always add up to perfection in my eyes unless one is being totally pragmatic about it.". Check out how the wheel base grew by a few mm and, what's more interesting, the front track width also increased! I guess I'll just stick to those for now. I'll be back with more, when there's more. It's still the initial setup, though. Looks like I've made the right choices of parts. Hi guys, I have a MB that i have successfully used a frog re release dogbone set to upgrade the drive shaft and move away from the hex drives. $6.49 shipping. Which smoothly leads us to where it all began - the steering. $105.00. It's time to talk about free play in the front suspension. Btw, let me know if you want the part numbers. I recently found myself having a brushless Racestar motor/ESC combo and 9kg digital servo lying around - both new since I only ever ran them a couple of times on another RC. I painted them blue. If you're only interested in seeing what and how, feel free to skip the next lines and check out the links below (hope that's allowed?). There's gonna have to be a lot of shimming, adjusting and modifying to be done to get those puppies fit but it'll be worth it. Shop RC cars, … "To this day, Tamiya still can over-think things (i.e. Please bear with me on that one... Those KBF/SBF/BD knuckles are hard to find. So thanks again for sharing your knowledge. You might have seen my proof of concept from the original post. I'm not going to bore everyone and their dog by listing everything I did and parts and electronics I used. It's just 28€ including shipping. sorry guys this is the one i purchased 2 of and is in the BF and MB currently, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TAMIYA-SUBARU-BRAT-FROG-Transmission-Bag-NIP-/150999849741?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item23284adb0d. Consider this a proof of concept. Bondiq is a sort of resin, that is applied in form of a fluid and hardens under UV light. OV-10 Bronco 30cc ARF with Landing Gear Set $1,999.99 Price reduced from $2,299.99 to Add to Cart One of which is my old Tamiya Blackfoot. Tamiya America, Inc 1/10 Suzuki Swift M-Chassis Front/Reawr Wheels 12mm Hex, White (4), TAM51237. But its this feature that makes them interesting to tinker with and drive. More on that later. We'll see how it goes... On the rear things more or less stayed the same geometry wise, except for the slightly increased toe in. The facia is missing because this way the truck looks freakin evil! So the King Blackfoot wound up being the last of the line. NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS) Bouchami, Jihene. Alright, enough talk. i have bought some MB 70mm shocks off the bay to see if this resolves my problem when they arrive (yep i know i could try them off of my own MB but heh we all need spares to fill the tool box). That said, I just couldn't leave the steering the way it was - I mean the inner tie rod ball-joint positions are just ridiculous! It's a question and the answer is yes! At Modelsport UK we don't only sell models, we stock a large range of spares and accessories to keep your model on the go!! I know, it's not the most elegant looking solution but at that point in time I didn't know how the project would spin out of control on me. I'll probably have that fixed in my next post in that I will make a shield of some sort underneath the truck. Interesting ist the size of the inner and outer bearings. If they break I will probably get back to the idea of going for entirely new parts. I have upgraded my Original Blackfoot with the ReRe Frog dogbone axels, and I must say, I have had no problems with it (no dogbones popping out etc..). Did you get those new CNC parts? Once the proper design architecture was nailed down, alot of vehicles began to look and act the same. i can get a 4mm x 1mm. Monster Beetle sorry rule's a bit hard read, MB in the middle is my runner with dogbone set up. Also want to know if they make replacement parts in aluminum. 1 pair Axle Pin Extender(APE) for 5mm Drive Axles . (In theory, it should'nt matter which shock is used, as the trailing arms maximum travel should still be the same, but perhaps because the yellow shocks are oil filled, and not so strongly sprung, the weight of the car, especially when carrying a battery, makes the ride height lower, hence why you say the rear end ride height looks lower, and the angle of the dogbones less steep). I have now just bought these to see if they are any better, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111000655297?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Tamiya-Frog-Subaru-Brat-Gear-Box-Joint-Dog-Bone-Drive-Shaft-and-Axle-Part-/221186644794?pt=US_Character_Radio_Control_Toys&hash=item337fc05b3a. The reinforced polycarbonate monocoque chassis allows easy access to the main components and also allows maintenance of the gearbox to be simple and easy. I'm not) and an automotive engineer who spent the last 5 or so years in chassis development at Ford, it's just feels right to finally try and mod it up to it's full potential. Tamiya Blackfoot, Marui Big Bear, Kyosho Big Brute MIP, Thorp, differential upgrades Luke’s Vintage Rc Car Restoration. Better performing, stronger and lower-parts count doesn't always add up to perfection in my eyes unless one is being totally pragmatic about it. Sadly, your right that the chassis could have used further development in certain areas. You can check out some pictures of the mods under this link:https://goo.gl/photos/F2X7zgJy7UHNmhmC6, Here's a (very) short video of the steering setup:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2PTnfTFsFQ, Here's the first ever trial run - you are witnessing something here!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leMEaFB_w5M. Then I used the same tube to stiffen up the frame. Just add enough spacers inside the shocks to shorten them enough so that the shock, not the down-stop, determines how far the arm drops. Now, long story short. Hi, I'd sign that! Must've been some 15 years ago. This 2WD Blackfoot III monster truck is the 5th generation vehicle to use the famous Blackfoot name. The SBF also lost the rear trailing arm suspension and gained a wider version of the original BF's front suspension. Nice. And also, pop one, in each cup, of the long axels (which connect to the rear wheels). I'll have to come up with something better. I like your steering mod! Firstly- putting a washer on the inside of the swinging arm driveshaft still allowed me to put the pin through the driveshaft and fit the rear wheel locator over the pin, but upon fitting the wheels it locked them tight to the outside of the trailing arm, obviously no good. 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